Two bugs, a problem and odds and ends

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    DesktopboB, 30th Jul 2015 10:24 am

    Chami,
    I've been meaning to document a couple of small bugs that I found with the HTML-Kit Tools for Windows 20150320.
    When using the Preview tab, I can also choose to preview the page in a browser. In both Win 7 and 8.1, however, if I click on the link to preview in browser, I only have the option to use the Last Opened Browser with no list of browsers that are available (I have three installed on the Win 7 machine).
    In other words, if I last previewed in Firefox and want to check the page in Chrome, I have to use the View option in the main toolbar to select a browser rather than select it from a list of available browsers at the bottom of the preview window.

    I keep waiting for a solution to a low priority item we used Team Viewer on a year or so back. When creating a new document, or renaming a document or using "Save As" the Editor window defaults to indenting all the wrapped text in the viewing area, regardless of the settings I've specified under Preferences. Have to go up to Preferences and change back to "Do not wrap" every time. Possibly a fix is somewhere on the to do list?

    For reasons I can't fathom, I've lost my Taskbar icon for Tools when the program is running in Win 7. I will admit that I was in a hurry one day and updated Filezilla while Tools was running. At this point the Taskbar icon went to a generic and although I've tried re-installing tools, it hasn't come back. Any ideas?

    Lastly, is there any way to get the Preview window to mimic the screen behavior I'm seeing in mobile devices when the viewport is resized?
    Here's the scenario:
    In the tablets and phones I have tested, I find that the devices have matured to the point that they will automatically resize both font size and graphics to fit in the viewing area (I realize this runs contrary to most of what is out there on the web about multiple stylesheets and whatnot). Maybe it's just my devices, but it does seem to work across the board.
    Now, if I use the resize capability of the Preview window, the viewport does resize, but the font remains the same as at full size and graphics will bleed off the edge of the page.
    Not crucial, but something to think about...

    Other than those items, I can't think of anything else. I've been trying to keep a list of items as they crop up, but I can't find it at the moment...and considering that I've been using this Tools build since it came out but am only now getting around to documenting stuff...sheesh!

    To quote John Lennon (probably badly), Life is what happens when you're making other plans.

    Thanks,
    boB

    • HTML-Kit Support, 7th Aug 2015 12:13 am

      heY boB,

      On 7/30/2015 10:24 AM, DesktopboB wrote:

      Chami,
      I've been meaning to document a couple of small bugs that I found
      with the HTML-Kit Tools for Windows 20150320.

      When using the Preview tab, I can also choose to preview the page in
      a browser. In both Win 7 and 8.1, however, if I click on the link to
      preview in browser, I only have the option to use the Last Opened
      Browser with no list of browsers that are available (I have three
      installed on the Win 7 machine).
      In other words, if I last previewed in Firefox and want to check the
      page in Chrome, I have to use the View option in the main toolbar to
      select a browser rather than select it from a list of available
      browsers at the bottom of the preview window.

      It should show the same options that you see on "View > Preview in
      browser." You've probably reopened Tools since it detected those
      browsers so that is odd.

      I keep waiting for a solution to a low priority item we used Team
      Viewer on a year or so back. When creating a new document, or
      renaming a document or using "Save As" the Editor window defaults to
      indenting all the wrapped text in the viewing area, regardless of the
      settings I've specified under Preferences. Have to go up to
      Preferences and change back to "Do not wrap" every time. Possibly a
      fix is somewhere on the to do list?

      I remember us doing Team Viewer and I thought I had fixed this. If I
      disable wrapping in preferences now, open a file with long lines and do
      a save as, it's keeping that setting (lines remain un-wrapped). I'm
      using the persistent setting under "Edit > Preferences" not "View >
      Editor > Word wrap" which is temporary.

      For reasons I can't fathom, I've lost my Taskbar icon for Tools when
      the program is running in Win 7. I will admit that I was in a hurry
      one day and updated Filezilla while Tools was running. At this point
      the Taskbar icon went to a generic and although I've tried
      re-installing tools, it hasn't come back. Any ideas?

      If you have a Tools icon on the desktop also, does right clicking and
      changing its icon under Preferences make any difference? Or you could
      try renaming IconCache.db to old-iconcache.db under
      C:\Users\YourUsernameHere\AppData\Local\ These are hidden files so you
      may have to manually enter this path in Windows explorer window or use
      the Command Prompt.

      Lastly, is there any way to get the Preview window to mimic the
      screen behavior I'm seeing in mobile devices when the viewport is
      resized?
      Here's the scenario:
      In the tablets and phones I have tested, I find that the devices
      have matured to the point that they will automatically resize both
      font size and graphics to fit in the viewing area (I realize this
      runs contrary to most of what is out there on the web about multiple
      stylesheets and whatnot). Maybe it's just my devices, but it does
      seem to work across the board.
      Now, if I use the resize capability of the Preview window, the
      viewport does resize, but the font remains the same as at full size
      and graphics will bleed off the edge of the page.
      Not crucial, but something to think about...

      For this case I'd suggest the Extended Preview option. It's the display
      icon drop-down menu on far side of the main menu. This way you'll be
      able to preview it in the real thing! I picked up a cheap (~ $20)
      prepaid Android phone just for this purpose so it's sitting next to the
      monitor previewing what I'm editing in Tools. Linked to Extended Preview
      through wifi.

      Other than those items, I can't think of anything else. I've been
      trying to keep a list of items as they crop up, but I can't find it
      at the moment...and considering that I've been using this Tools build
      since it came out but am only now getting around to documenting
      stuff...sheesh!

      To quote John Lennon (probably badly), Life is what happens when
      you're making other plans.

      Thanks,
      boB

      I like that... makes me feel human :)

      Drop me a note when you find that list!

      Chami

      • DesktopboB, 18th Aug 2015 1:04 pm

        Chami,
        I found the list of items along with my responses to your response...to whit:

        1) Any idea of how to restore the list of browsers to the pull down menu once I'm in the Preview window. The computer I usually work at has IE, Firefox, Chrome and Safari installed. I've looked at the "View->Preview in Browser->Edit and manage browsers, but have no idea what I'm looking at, or for?

        2) I've tried the Edit->Preferences and disabled the word wrap until I am blue in the face and it does not hold between documents or sessions. A Save As command will default to indented text even in a document where I have changed the preferences previously.

        3) For reasons only known to the folks in Redmond, my Tools icon has mysteriously reappeared after a windows update or two. I'm happy, but perplexed.

        4) I'll look into finding a cheap smart phone (maybe at a garage sale) for testing. I have used Extended Preview extensively with my tablet and find it is very useful!

        My list of things has most of what we covered above, except:

        5) The Recent Documents function refuses to recognize a .txt file as something I have opened recently. I've also found that if my network has timed out a mapped drive, Recent Files doesn't cause the mapped drive to open, but instead returns a can't find message.

        7) Spell Check. I remember when I inputted on this way back when and just started using it again recently. The largest problem is with the way I work (Spell check doesn't like me!). When setting up a page, I routinely code CSS on the fly and then move the declarations to the head of the document for further testing (or multiple uses) prior to shipping them off (in most cases) to an external CSS file. Spell check will routinely check my CSS declarations and flag them for errors. Any way to make it stop messing with my....dare I say it...head?

        8) A further Spell Check problem is that is wants to flag special characters that are outside of the basic set. I use “ ” a lot, as well as other typesetting marks that you would find on the printed page. Spell check wants to flag the special character and the word it is next to as an error on either the right or left side. Page I've just started has 28 words flagged and around 20 are due to this problem. Any thoughts?

        That concludes my lost list, so hope things are well back your way.

        boB

        • HTML-Kit Support, 22nd Aug 2015 12:49 am

          On 8/18/2015 1:04 PM, DesktopboB wrote:

          Chami, I found the list of items along with my responses to your
          response...to whit:

          Woohoo :)

          1) Any idea of how to restore the list of browsers to the pull down
          menu once I'm in the Preview window. The computer I usually work at
          has IE, Firefox, Chrome and Safari installed. I've looked at the
          "View->Preview in Browser->Edit and manage browsers, but have no idea
          what I'm looking at, or for?

          So just to cross out the possibility of browser detection issues, I
          installed freshly downloaded copies of Chrome, Firefox and Opera. Safari
          isn't there because Apple no longer ship Windows versions.

          Here's a quick video of the result:

          http://www.htmlkit.com/go/youtube/preview-in-browser-list

          All those browsers, and the latest version of IE, are auto-detected on
          "View > Preview in Browser" and "Preview > In Browser" menus.

          A couple of things to check on your end: reopen Tools after installing
          browsers and make sure that you're using the official installers. If you
          use a repackaged distribution you'll have to tell Tools where to find
          those executables.

          2) I've tried the Edit->Preferences and disabled the word wrap until
          I am blue in the face and it does not hold between documents or
          sessions. A Save As command will default to indented text even in a
          document where I have changed the preferences previously.

          Let me come back to this.

          3) For reasons only known to the folks in Redmond, my Tools icon has
          mysteriously reappeared after a windows update or two. I'm happy,
          but perplexed.

          Sounds like the Windows icon cache got rebuilt. This isn't that uncommon.

          4) I'll look into finding a cheap smart phone (maybe at a garage
          sale) for testing. I have used Extended Preview extensively with my
          tablet and find it is very useful!

          Prepaid Android phones have dropped in price. For testing purposes, I
          don't need triple retina or Marshmallow, just as long as I can browse
          over wifi.

          My list of things has most of what we covered above, except:

          5) The Recent Documents function refuses to recognize a .txt file as
          something I have opened recently.

          Is it listed anywhere in "Files > Recent Files > Manage recent files"?

          I've also found that if my network has timed out a mapped drive,
          Recent Files doesn't cause the mapped drive to open, but instead
          returns a can't find message.

          Network paths would timeout in other apps also though unless maybe you
          open a Windows Explorer and nudge them to reconnect. I guess Tools could
          anticipate this but I'll have to test and see if it'd save much time in
          the end.

          7) Spell Check. I remember when I inputted on this way back when and
          just started using it again recently. The largest problem is with the
          way I work (Spell check doesn't like me!). When setting up a page, I
          routinely code CSS on the fly and then move the declarations to the
          head of the document for further testing (or multiple uses) prior to
          shipping them off (in most cases) to an external CSS file. Spell
          check will routinely check my CSS declarations and flag them for
          errors. Any way to make it stop messing with my....dare I say
          it...head?

          8) A further Spell Check problem is that is wants to flag special
          characters that are outside of the basic set. I use “ ” a
          lot, as well as other typesetting marks that you would find on the
          printed page. Spell check wants to flag the special character and the
          word it is next to as an error on either the right or left side. Page
          I've just started has 28 words flagged and around 20 are due to this
          problem. Any thoughts?

          I'll check on these and add to the to-do list.

          A trick I use in mixed code/content is highlighting the text or even
          just a single iffy word before pressing F7.

          That concludes my lost list, so hope things are well back your way.

          boB

          Thanks as always boB. Check out these notes and let me know if they
          don't help.

          Chami