Moving Tools from XP to Windows 8.1 (Bug? I'm not sure)

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    DesktopboB, 5th Aug 2014 3:19 pm

    Chami,
    Know you are busy programming using your new neural/computer interface, but I ran into a bit of a puzzler and wanted to document it so others won't go nuts when they have the same problem.

    I'm in the process of setting up a brand-new computer which is running Windows 8.1 (64-bit). The main work computer is showing its age and, since it is running XP (32-bit) and can't be upgraded, it was time for a change.

    I grabbed a fresh copy of Tools from my User Assistant and installed it on the 8.1 computer.
    From the XP computer, I took the .hsf files found in Program Files>Html-Kit>Tools>bin which is what I have done in the past to move settings or even a whole pile of snippets from one computer to the next.
    I launched Tools and it did its usual thing with the "Preparing for First Time Use" notice on the start graphic.
    Exited Tools and copied the .hsf files from the XP machine into the bin of the 8.1 machine.
    Started Tools and it once again said "Preparing for First Time Use" while it was booting.
    Again, no change.
    From looking at the bin files, found that Tools had overwritten the config.hsf file from the XP computer.
    Tried copying a few more times and even uninstalled (using Revo) and re-installation with the same result.

    I don't know what this bug could be, but it may have to do with the architecture between XP and 8.1??
    I was finally able to solve the problem by taking the .hsf files from my Windows 7 machine and placing them into the bin of the 8.1.

    Not sure what all this proves, but I just wanted to document some information that will, hopefully, save some others a similar headache.

    And, has anyone done a transfer of the .hsf files from XP to Windows 8.1??

    Thanks,
    boB

    • HTML-Kit Support, 5th Aug 2014 3:54 pm

      Hi boB,

      On 8/5/2014 3:19 PM, DesktopboB wrote:

      Chami,
      Know you are busy programming using your new neural/computer
      interface, but I ran into a bit of a puzzler and wanted to document
      it so others won't go nuts when they have the same problem.

      Hey hey! I don't need you too calling me a robot :)

      I'm in the process of setting up a brand-new computer which is
      running Windows 8.1 (64-bit). The main work computer is showing its
      age and, since it is running XP (32-bit) and can't be upgraded, it
      was time for a change.

      I grabbed a fresh copy of Tools from my User Assistant and installed
      it on the 8.1 computer.
      From the XP computer, I took the .hsf files found in Program
      Files>Html-Kit>Tools>bin which is what I have done in the past to
      move settings or even a whole pile of snippets from one computer to
      the next.
      I launched Tools and it did its usual thing with the "Preparing for
      First Time Use" notice on the start graphic.
      Exited Tools and copied the .hsf files from the XP machine into the
      bin of the 8.1 machine.
      Started Tools and it once again said "Preparing for First Time Use"
      while it was booting.
      Again, no change.
      From looking at the bin files, found that Tools had overwritten the
      config.hsf file from the XP computer.
      Tried copying a few more times and even uninstalled (using Revo) and
      re-installation with the same result.

      I don't know what this bug could be, but it may have to do with the
      architecture between XP and 8.1??
      I was finally able to solve the problem by taking the .hsf files from
      my Windows 7 machine and placing them into the bin of the 8.1.

      Not sure what all this proves, but I just wanted to document some
      information that will, hopefully, save some others a similar
      headache.

      And, has anyone done a transfer of the .hsf files from XP to Windows
      8.1??

      Thanks,
      boB

      Other than going from "C:\Program Files..." (32-bit XP) to "C:\Program
      Files (x86)..." (64-bit 8.1), it should work the same. If you were
      using profiles on XP, it may have started with the default profile on
      8.1 and so it might been necessary to manually pick from "Kit > Profiles."

      Congratulations on moving to 64-bit Windows 8.1! You'll also be able to
      use nicer fonts in HTML-Kit Tools which weren't available on XP (though
      I'm sure you've used them on Win7).

      Chami

      • DesktopboB, 7th Aug 2014 11:09 am

        Chami,
        Thanks for getting back to me.
        Curiously, I wasn't using any profiles outside of the default, since I'm the only user of the program.

        The only really odd thing was that that the Windows 8.1 install of Tools kept overwriting the imported config.hsf and then said on the splash screen that it was "preparing for first time use" even thought the program had been opened before.

        It's really a moot point, since I've got the files where they belong and all my snippets and such are playing nicely in their new home.
        Just wanted to point out the problem, since it might have a bearing on your future programming of Tools.

        Thanks,
        boB

        • HTML-Kit Support, 7th Aug 2014 11:51 am

          On 8/7/2014 11:09 AM, DesktopboB wrote:

          Chami,
          Thanks for getting back to me.
          Curiously, I wasn't using any profiles outside of the default, since
          I'm the only user of the program.

          The only really odd thing was that that the Windows 8.1 install of
          Tools kept overwriting the imported config.hsf and then said on the
          splash screen that it was "preparing for first time use" even
          thought the program had been opened before.

          It's really a moot point, since I've got the files where they belong
          and all my snippets and such are playing nicely in their new home.
          Just wanted to point out the problem, since it might have a bearing
          on your future programming of Tools.

          Thanks,
          boB

          I appreciate the heads up, boB. It's always good to have reasons for
          future deja vus!

          Wording of "preparing for first time use" message isn't quite accurate
          because it comes up every time HTML-Kit encounters a configuration from
          a different build (and when there's no config file). I went with that
          message text, well, because I don't know words :) but also because it's
          most commonly seen during new installations and upgrades. In reality,
          even switching to a new profile can trigger this process of filling in
          any gaps in the config file.

          Chami